vidlivs (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Who's going to pay the expenses for all these grand socialist ideas of lengthy paternity leaves.....high, high, and even higher taxes. If you have a hard time making ends meet for your own family. Why would it make sense to pay more taxes so that you have to meet the needs of other peoples families? It makes no sense.

trencher7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Remember Obama's "change" = "Marxism". He just pulled a Kerry and said "I have asked my economic team to refrain from presenting a more detailed blue-print of how an immediate plan might be structured." Don't fall for it. Our economy can't afford his socialistic views.

mdwbcone (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

NOBAMA! God help us all if this man wins.

ameneses52 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

What a HYPOCRITE!!!!Obama talks of helping others and yet his brother in Kenya lives like a rat in a shanty!! Barack before you preach have the decency of helping your brother who suffers great poverty in Kenya. He is your Brother from crying out loud. You promise to help Americans and yet you neglect your own blood. You promise change and you give a cold shoulder with your Muslim brother in Kenya. How dare you talk about Fatherhood inside a church!!! Barack you are a wolf in sheep skin!!!!!!

todmarbri (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

McCain was definitely not my first Republican choice. But, without a doubt, Obama has royally fucked himself with the Hillary supporters. All of them know if Obama wins now Hillary doesn't stand a chance in 2012. All of you will be disappointed. It's a numbers game and McCain will win it. You read it here first.

rogerfgay (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Dig deep enough and find a welfare system that requires "cooperation" with authorities for paternity establishment - and women first trying to stick paternity to the guys with the highest income - then eventually going to the phone book to supply names and addresses. About a third of all paternity establishments are with the wrong guy; some of them suckered into "relations" after she knows she's pregnant - and she'll continue a relationship with the real father while others just pay the bill.

totallybarefoot (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

To be one of Nietzche's laughing lions? Maybe I'm just frightened, but I'm not sure we do have that courage, and people without courage often enough substitute recklessness. Sorry if that's too negative. I still admire the laughing lion, but I'm not sure we're ready to be that.

totallybarefoot (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I have seen this at work. A woman with several children from several fathers can collect welfare check, more importantly have free health care and subsidized housing, and collect unreported child support/blackmail (if "dad" doesn't pay up, when and how he can, she'll report him to the system, and he'll have his wages garnished, or worse if his income is unreported/unlawful. We really have been paying the poorest women to have children, and paying them more than we pay them to work or study.

totallybarefoot (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Dupes of the IRS. The labor a woman provides for her family is tax free. But if she goes to work, she pays income tax on her earnings, which she then spends to replace the services she might have provided her family, and those service providers and their employees also pay taxes.

maulhoik (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The "god" thing is a hoax the republicans have poisoned americans minds with, an old, dead angry god. The question is, do we have the courage to awaken from the fog and do something bold?