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grassyknollkiller (August 24, 2008 at 4:42 pm)
And there it is. Memorandum of Discussion at the Special Meeting on Vietnam, Honolulu, November 20, 1963. This meeting is ONLY 2 days before they assassinated JFK. JFK was going to announce pulling out of Vietnam after the next election. He made enemies of the mafia, the military/industrial complex, CIA, Justice Dept, the politically corrupt members; including VP and State Dept. and Cuban Nationals. He had to go.
grassyknollkiller (August 24, 2008 at 4:40 pm)
Dept of State,S/S-NSC Files:Lot 72 D 316,NSAMs. Top Secret;Eyes Only.Memorandum of Discussion at the Special Meeting on Vietnam, Honolulu,November 20, 1963"Ambassador Lodge described the outlook for the immediate future of Vietnam as hopeful. The Generals appear to be united and determined to step up the war effort. They profess to be keenly aware that the struggle with the Viet Cong is not only a military problem, but is also political and psychological. They attach great importance..."
grassyknollkiller (August 21, 2008 at 5:49 pm)
MAN of the HOUSE, by Tip O'Neill, Random House: 1987, pg178Kenneth O'Donnell, SS Follow-up Car, WC deposition, May 18, 1964, 7H4481964 KO:"My reaction (to the source of the shots) in part is reconstruction—is that they came from the right rear."1987 KO:"I told the FBI what I had heard but they said it couldn't have happened that way and that I must have been imagining things. So I testified the way they wanted me to. I just didn't want to stir up any more pain and trouble for the family."
susiedent (August 19, 2008 at 9:14 pm)
pajasa - who wants YOU to conclude that I am a fanatic - is still yet to supply ANY reason why LHO did not get an ACLU attorney.The only thing I want YOU to do, is THINK and RESEARCH for YOURSELVES.pajasa wants to bully you into agreeing with him, and adopting his stance.I do not.My aim is not to "win the argument".The ONLY thing I BEG OF YOU - please please please OPEN YOUR EYES AND MINDS, and think for yourself.pajasa dis-informs. But PLEASE inform yourselves.
susiedent (August 19, 2008 at 8:02 pm)
pajasa repeatedly utilises the word "flight" in an attempt to sub-consciously convince you of LHO's guilt.pajasa alleges H.L-N. was "head" of the Dallas Bar, whereas he was "president" - an honourary title, not suggestive of rank/ superiority.pajasa seeks to imply LHO only wanted Abt, whereas he actually wanted Abt OR an ACLU attorney.pajasa wants to imply this was not a reasonable request.pajasa alleges he knows of some legitimate reasons why LHO did NOT get an ACLU attorney.
susiedent (August 19, 2008 at 7:54 pm)
pajasa wants you to think that his choice of words is neither-here-nor-there; that I am pedantic for engaging him upon the issue.WORDS can be as hard as a diamond, or as soft as slurry. As sharp as switchblades, or as blunt as a brick.WORDS are the window through which you view and understand the world around you.Without WORDS, you know nothing, understand nothing, apprehend nothing.WORDS separate man from animal. pajasa knows it. But tries to use it against YOU.
susiedent (August 19, 2008 at 7:44 pm)
Keep persevering in your attempt to make it appear as though LHO's request was so specific he may as well have been asking for Clarence Darrow.Why were no arrangements made to get him an ACLU-member attorney ??????????Why was that NOT a reasonable request ?????????Why is any H.L-N. "evidence" non-contemporaneously-sourced ???????????Why must I accept H.L-N. as the unquestionable fountain of truth which you aim to suggest he must be regarded as ?????
pajasa62 (August 19, 2008 at 7:40 pm)
Chief Curry introduced him as "the head of the Dallas Bar""The TRUTH is that he wanted Abt OR an ACLU attorney." - Yes, as Nichols said, if he couldn't get Abt settle for a (non-communist) ACLU lawyer. Strengthened by Ruth Paines's remorse of not telling him to "just get a temporary guy"Did he get a lawyer? No, but to leave it at "no" doesn't explain ANYTHING until you ask "Why not?"
susiedent (August 19, 2008 at 7:23 pm)
H. Louis-Nichols visited LHO late on 23-11, following contact from >1 attorney concerned about the possible counter-constitutional treatment of LHO. H.L-N. was President of the D.B. - a constantly-rotating one-year honourary title. Not "head", as you have stated.Plough-on with your Abt strategy. The TRUTH is that he wanted Abt OR an ACLU attorney.I repeat - a REASONABLE request. If you think not - state why not.Did he get one ? - NO.
susiedent (August 19, 2008 at 7:13 pm)
I'm sorry, but I don't think that you view semantics is "nonsense" - if you did, you'd never have selected the word "flight". You knew the impression which you wanted that word to convey; used it; and now claim semantics is nonsense.WORDS matter. In devious hands they can be used to distort FACTS, and to create belief in the unbelieveable.Re : "winning an argument" - thank you for clarifying that that is your aim. Let the record reflect that my aim is TRUTH, not winning arguments. |